Right, it's Friday.

So welcome to this week's business or bullshit quiz with celebrity hairstylist Larry King in the hot seat

You ready to play a game Larry?

It's very very quick and easy to play We're gonna say something you have to say whether it's business or bullshit.

Yeah Deque the music and So we begin.

Oh, it's a really boring one.

Work plates Business or bullshit bullshit.

Ugh.

I dunno.

Yeah.

I'll be interested in your industry.

'cause workloads I think is slightly a misano.

It's more like appropriate dress for your industry.

You know?

I think, you know, in my industry, you, but when you're a stylist, you have to be fast as being individual and celebrating your own creative.

But you absolute look smart, right?

You have to not kind of, no, you have to be creativity.

No, I think you have to.

It's an extension of your own personality and creativity as your dress sense.

But I think also youngsters that are coming into the industry, you know, Clients need to feel like they have a place where they can, you know, like if there's

an assistant that's in clothes that they can identify or there's a receptionist that are well dressed and they know that they work within the establishment.

Do you know what I mean?

So that's how I tend to look at it.

Yeah, it's almost like dress well or for whatever that means for your, for your thing.

Flexible working.

No, bullshit, definitely.

Oh, really?

Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, aren't you the, the, uh, the exact example of a flexible working industry?

Or no, because...

No.

There's a point...

No, no, no.

I think all this shit about people working from home, the country needs to get back into your faces.

It's bollocks.

Honestly, I don't care how many people tonight, yeah, people want to work from home, so they can have mundane, mundane Mondays, where they

just do all of their mundane chores, and then they go, fuck it Fridays, where they just fuck off everything, because they've got a hangover.

But...

They only work Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

This country is just...

works three days a week, majority of the time.

My salon is packed as much on a Tuesday and a Wednesday as on a Saturday.

Well, so explain that one.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I kind of agree with that.

In fact, um, one of the things that, again, I wasn't that bothered, but the, you know, you get to the bottom of the labour things that we're gonna have...

Two extra bank holidays for a country that's really struggling with its efficiency.

I couldn't work that one out.

I just think people just need to be in offices.

I think people need to communicate, they need to feel like they get up, get dressed, give a reason to get dressed in the morning.

Sorry, call me old fashioned and if people really go and attack me on it.

Then fair enough, but I do think, I think it also mental health causes a lot of mental health issues, people working at home, that isolation.

I just think people need to just be back in the offices, it's crucial, it's just like I said, it's identifying about mental health, people working hard, if someone says, look, can I work from home this day?

But it should be asked, it's not like a weekly.

Yeah, not always.

Meeting agendas.

I think people have a lot of meetings and don't move things forward.

Yeah.

I think, I speak to people in other companies and they can spend all day on meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting.

And then I go, how do you actually do the stuff that you have these meetings about?

Where do you actually do the work and make it happen?

And nine times out of ten, they only have to do it the three hours after work.

Yeah.

Mm hmm.

Yeah, yeah.

Sometimes I think meetings can take...

Productivity, yeah.

MBAs.

What does MBA actually stand for?

Uh, Master of Business Administration.

Oh, yeah, okay.

Master of Business Administration.

Well, that's education, isn't it, at MBAs, aren't they?

It's like university degrees.

Yeah, but there's a query about whether they're useful education or not.

Honestly, again, I believe people sometimes, you know, if you go to university, you get a really good degree.

My daughter's going to university.

Or you go into a business start right at the bottom and you work your way up what one's going to achieve the highest level first Yeah, there's a lot to be said to cracking on with it.

That's for sure Very good diversity quotas.

Yes.

I think that is crucial Definitely.

I think people definitely need to be a diversity is massive and it's crucial for me Definitely everyone's opportunities should be equal to everybody and I think

it's genomic growth within that world is is much needed Universal basic income, so everybody gets a bit of money regardless of whether they have a job or not.

The argument is it sort of simplifies...

Well, they do that, that happens now, doesn't it?

Not really.

Yeah, some people argue that, you know, you've got to apply for it through benefits or whatever, but that's one of the advantages.

Listen, if people need benefits, and they're, you know, they need benefits because of issues, 100 percent they should be having benefits.

But if there's people that compute, it can work.

So you would say, because that means everybody gets it, so bullshit maybe.

I don't know, I quite like the sound of it, so.

Work for Moe, get, do grand a month, do fuck all, I think, you know, estimations.

Business estimations, as long as it's within, ballpark figures, as long as it's within the remit of your, your close to it, do you know what I mean?

You're not sticking it right out there.

Oh, my business is worth 50 million when you're only turning over 50 grand.

That's, that's definitely called bullshit.

No, it's bullshit.

Business plans.

Yeah, business plans are great.

I think they're good.

They give you guidance.

And I think you should update your business plans.

Regularly.

Yeah, regularly.

Yeah.

Because the world changes fast.

Yes, the world does change fast.

Office nap pods.

Yeah, see, I don't, see, I don't mind that.

Because that's about me saying people going to work and not working from home.

Because if you don't need them if you're working from home, because you just don't get out of bed till three o'clock in the afternoon.

Can be true.

Do you know what I mean?

Have you heard about these, sorry, just going back to that one.

Yeah.

People not getting home.

People have machines at home that keep their mouses moving.

Have you heard about that?

No!

Yeah, mate.

To keep them active?

There's a machine that just moves the mouse?

Yeah, you just stick the mouse on this machine, it keeps the mouse moving.

So, online people...

There's loads of people Googling right now and buying one from Amazon, I imagine.

I'll swear down, you Google it, this machine, you stick your mouse on it, it makes your mouse move consistently, so you're...

Company can see that you're online when the fact that you're in bed actually watching movies.

Oh my god.

Um, there was a thing on the radio the other day that having 20 minute naps makes you think more clearly, makes you less likely to have dementia.

But only up to 20 minutes.

Interesting.

If you look at that research, if you do more than 20 minutes, then it all...

20 minutes is fine for me.

Pivoting.

Pivoting your business.

Larry King, he's pivoted his...

Well, he's kind of pivoted slightly with the, the products.

Well, it would be more you giving up hairdressing and going into nail salons.

No, no, no, no, no.

I think you've always got to refresh your business and look at where you're going and, you know, pivoting is just pivoting it to keep it on path, surely.

Why don't you diversify into things like nails and stuff?

That never really happens, doesn't it?

It does, in some households.

It's a different industry, a different business.

It's not the same industry, beauty industry, but it's a...

You know, it's a different training.

Yeah, different style.

Uh, in office fitness classes.

Yeah, good for mental health.

Not that I'm the most fittest person, I'm the most unfittest person on the planet, but it also does help with mental health.

I do believe in that.

But I have to say, I don't go to the gym until I am.

Oh wow.

Do you don't do exercise?

No, I'm not the most exercising person on the planet, I have to say.

Okay.

That's it.

I mean, we'll do one more for the hell of it.

We'll do, uh, paradigm shift.

No.

Bollocks.

Yeah.

Agreed.

A big, big thank you to Larry for joining us this week, and we'll be back with a brand new episode next Tuesday.

In the meantime, have a great weekend.